Although the results might tell a different story, I wouldn't call myself an expert in Big-Ticket Phoneless Sales.

I've focused on this skill for a couple of years after spending the last 10 years learning how to sell from the written word (direct response copywriting) and email (preferred medium).

Here's how I first got interested in Sales:

At first, and let's be honest, the dream about making big money was a trigger that got me excited about exploring this topic.

But the more I focused and followed the money, the more I was frustrated about the entire process.

I remember one day buying one of Sam Ovens' programs that had included his phone sales script. And oh boy, I felt terrible just from reading it. I couldn't sell that way.

1 hour on the phone making people feel pressured, nervous... that wasn't me.

My immediate questions were...

Do I really need to be on the phone to close a 5-figure program, course, or service?

Isn't there another way more congruent with who I am? (I hate phone calls, by the way…)

So over the last couple of years, I embraced this Big-Ticket Phoneless Sales journey:

I read about it, bought more products than needed, put some to practice, and dropped many more…

And that's when I got into Travis Sago's world. At that time, I knew it was possible to help people get what they wanted and needed… without the need to get on the phone with them.

I could listen to what people had to say without making them feel pressured about buying.

With Travis, more than knowing it was possible…

I started getting results.

And long story short, I now own an agency, along with my co-founder Marcus Karl, where our team closes 5 and 6-figures in sales each month for our exclusive clients. And the only time we pick up the phone is when we want to chat about life.

Happy days.

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